geoff and jewels V8 MK1

[jewels]

as some may know we have had a project that has been on the back burner for many many years now

63 2 door deluxe

during some discussion late last year we have decided to re-commence and restart this project

we have gone with a rack but keeping it rear steer

we will try to minimize firewall mods as much as we can

i will upload piccys as soon as we have something tangable to look at

[zombie289]

ALRIGHTY!!!... Ive been waiting for this :)

Is it gunna be street rego'd??

[jewels]

yea
so its gunna be a big build

many things have to be considered for this reason

we always were going to use the steer box as the original engineer wanted that
but, this engineer and his superior required a rack

[Dr Danger]

Yea for racks!!

Steering ones...

Will you be able to retain the heater?

[geoff]

heater you bet , al
firewall will look standard
except the tunnel will look
a bit larger.(ive started the
rackconversion and is comming
along nicely. the crossmember
is a work of art with the rack
mounts being grafted into the
rear of the original crossmember
should look like a factory item
but not as rough ....




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[jewels]

the crossmember
is a work of art with the rack
mounts being grafted into the
rear of the original crossmember
should look like a factory item
but not as rough .... ;)

LOL geoff "work of art" .....you dont think that maybe a bit objective to some...heheheh :D

no its nice tho :)

[Dr Danger]

Well Geffro, if Jewels says its nice, it must be! :) Photo's please. In fact, this thread needs photo's of the car in question or it is pretty much useless.

I figured you wanted to retain the heater but there isn't too many V8 conversions that have. That green 2 door one in the UK springs to mind though.

Objective/subjective Jewels??? Not that I'm pedantic or anything... :)

[zombie289]

Is the firewall going back but still looking stock, or staying in the stock location?

What rack are u using mate?

...i agree, mucho pics please! :)

[jewels]

some pics soon as i can...stand bye
as for the rack
it is a centre steering rack

the steering arms come from the centre

this will enable factory geometry not to change from factory specs


these racks a commonly used in australia for rack conversions because of this feature

RSS (http://www.rrs-online.com/rack&pinionproducts.php) the ford component place
and blacks racks (http://www.blacksracks.com.au) the holden place

the top of the firewall should remain factory including heater/fan box
there will be changes made to the tunnel tho

will appear factory if all goes to plan

[jewels]

heres a couple of pics

for ya's

boots and covers removed

[ozzie]

h"mm seems that" piece of art" has come along since
i left the premise's

[geoff]

imagine what it will
look like in a weeks
time, gary..... :)

[zombie289]

What car is that rack out of Geoff? Or is it custom?
Other Plans??
Auto or Manual??
Wheels??
Drag, street m/c or sleeper look??

[jewels]

no its not a custom run of the mill
every day car

auto at this stage
street car not a sleeper as such

will see strip work :)
wheels well ... always hard have something in mind tho

[jewels]

im sorry i havent mentioned what car the rack is from as

made by australian company kirby bishop

and fitted to i daewoo cielo yea i know thats why :)

anyways here you can see how it mounts and works the existing steering

arms which are the same factory distance apart on the old drag link

distance is also the same from rear of cross member to mounting wholes


we have to fit a 'tapered boss' on each side so the tie rod (track rods) fit

as normal

[Dr Danger]

Work of art... :)

I'm pretty happy with the look of that. Well done.

So to finish off, some bosses for the tie rod ends and to rig up the steering shaft?

[benny]

Dumb question of the day here......how the hell do you change those rack boots with disassembling all of your steering?

[jewels]

benny
you would have to remove the centre mount bolts
plus the mount on one end (non steer column end)

so 4 bolts still some fiddling round

but we will make sure the boot is in good nic or new before final assembly
:)

[zombie289]

Looking good there guys. Will you be tubbing out the rear end?? 4 link etc??

[jewels]

zombie,
no there will be no tubs just a squaring up of the tub

will run with leaf springs and a 'cal-track' type of setup

[jewels]

after a bit of fiddling and discussion
we had changed from front to sump to rear sump
and now we have gone to front sump again

and this is what we will be sticking with...

small mod to a factory oil pan

[jewels]

we will have a custom sump made in a 't' shape at the front to make up for

capacity loss

have it sitting on a couple of pieces of wood atm but will be the clearance

we need once weight is put onto the engine mounts

still waiting on the reamer to complete to mounts for the tie rods

then they will move in a lot closer to the rack

water pump is a special conversion taking near 50mm out of the front

[jewels]

The 2 door has been seam welded as well as a 3/4 chassis fitted which ties

into the original front rails

then 3mm plate will line the original front chassis rails then plug welded into it

the engine mounts have already have the crush tubes and bolts fitted so a

quick weld will mark the spot where the rest of the mount will be made


we also sat a bonnet on ... and even with the victor jr the carby clears with

some 'small' amount to spare.

[ozzie]

seems the new project as hit the shed and a lot has progessed:)

[jewels]

trans now fitted for rear cross member fabrication

alignment and checking for final mount making done

the engine mounts basics are done finishing still required

a lower intake manifold may need to be fitted as the victor JR may

be a little high for an air cleaner to be fitted

[zombie289]

Hmmm, that water pump looks suspiciously close to a Holden 6 cyl one????!!! :)

Can you notch the sump at all to get the donk lower?? or does that create header and crank clearance issues?? Looking good guys!

[jewels]

correct !
as for the sump yes probably could get a little more but i dont think enough to make it comfortable

there wont be any crank clearance issues now

and we must have 15mm clearance around everything motor to chassis

[zombie289]

no its not a custom run of the mill
every day car

auto at this stage
street car not a sleeper as such

will see strip work :)
wheels well ... always hard have something in mind tho

Hey thinking out loud here, after seeing the old drag car pics u posted, How nuts would a Mk1 look w/ candy paint, Cragar SS mags 15x4 front, 15x8 rear with maybe like a fairlane thunderbolt hood scoop or flat hood....like if someone built a Mk1 to go A/FX racing with (before they went all nuts w/ the altered wheelbase stuff)...

[jewels]

yes zombie
be able to race in nostagic drags ...while still keeping with the theme
not the car to have leaf spring fron ends tho :)

gee talking bout that
would love to see satisfaction up here for the nostalgic drag meet :)

[zombie289]

gee talking bout that
would love to see satisfaction up here for the nostalgic drag meet :)


Man id fly back to OZ just to see that!!!!! :) :)

[jewels]

just a quick update

we have the pedal and master cylinder mounted along with the steering column

working on the mounts for the crossflow radiator among other things this weekend

[Toby]

Wow! http://www.cortina-mk1classifieds.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gifThat looks like it should do the numbers!!

Super impressed, I know if you chip away at something the end result is more impressive than you might have imagined was possible, but I would be nervous to start a project this big!

Going to be awesome, hurry up!! http://www.cortina-mk1classifieds.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Dr Danger]

Updates?

[jewels]

i have the new rear springs :)

[Dr Danger]

Good good, not getting too carried away then. :)

[jewels]

nah there is actually a bit more happening ... but not post worthy




steering arms have been done




radiator ready to go




auto ready for check over




hi stall there ready for spruce up




4.3 nine inch spooled




manifold fuel delivery .... a couple of options




engine ready for freshen up 8)




struts almost done

[Dr Danger]

See now, that wasn't so hard was it!

[jewels]

left hand....
passenger side...
starter and bellhousing conversion

for right hand drive car that is :)

this will allow for more header room

[Dr Danger]

Schmiko! Worth the wait by the looks.

[zombie289]

Are u going with that EFI system?? Over here its considered pretty much junk on anything thats more than mildy modified....the GT40 stuff, TFS, edelbrock etc, is much better as well as the bigger injectors req'd, you will pretty much throw all of that stock 5.0 HO stuff away if yer after serious power...
Just my $.02...

[jewels]

it was a swap meet special zombie
came with a haltec ecu was very very cheap :)

nah i dont really plan to use it

gunna use a holley/bg DP

[jewels]

a couple of updates...



can still fit a 3 inch air cleaner element and close the bonnet

[benny]

a couple of updates...



can still fit a 3 inch air cleaner element and close the bonnet

Yep, it makes the guys over here sick how much hood-clearance I have. They are all fitting cowl-induction hoods to the Novas and Chevelles, and this goofy little thing has plenty of head room.

[zombie289]

looking good there guys!....looking forward to seeing it in person real soon :)

[jewels]

just an update all the pictures i had of this on going project were lost in my recent HD crash....


will be taking more tho...
roll cage is being fitted , sump is also finished,
freshened engine almost complete also

headers will be the next thing

[zombie289]

Engine specs please....:thumbs

[geoff]

zombie (re.engine specs please)
seeing that you said please,
here goes.......................
1969.. 289ci +030.....
billet steel caps with arp stud kit.
standard size 289 fully ballanced crank ass.
ramsdale preped rods with arp bolts..........
trw forged 12.5 to 1 pistons with hasting file back racing rings.
mellings hv oil pump with custom hd drive shaft.
custom winged oil pan.....
crane F-280-2 solid lifter camshaft.
ported 351 cylinder heads with 1.94 and 1.6 gm valves
screw in studs ,guide plates,teflon seals ect.....
8005 iski valve springs harland sharp 7/16 roller rockers
150th longer manley pushrods.
felpro mls head gaskets, arp head stud kit....
edelbrock victor jnr manifold..............
holly 750cfm double pumper 4cnr idle ,milled choke horn.. by h schultz racing....
ice electronic HEI ignition.magnacore 8mm leadset.....
engine made 400hp on 100 octane.............it should be good enough for now............ geoff...........

[jewels]

heres a pic or 2 for now

[ozzie]

any up to date pics on latest works done
jewels8):unsure

[jewels]

theres not much but hava look

so far


oil pan


roll bar / 4 point cage


floor and front view of heater fan box

[Dr Danger]

Shot of tubs?

[jewels]

nothing to see as they are all standard al...

[Dr Danger]

I though it was getting minitubbed. No?

[jewels]

nop dr danger

[jewels]

completed headers for the car

mandrel bends

3 inch collectors :thumbs

[duckie]

ive tubbed mine if ya wanna look lol:clown

[jewels]

duckie,
im sure we would all like to have a look :)

start a new thread ..look forward to the pics

[duckie]

cool i'll post some pics later in the week ....we just moved the spring hangers to the inside of the rails split the tubs and took them in to the rails and welded a strip in on the interior side and squared them up in the boot it has 14x8s with 245's under it at the moment but i had 15x 10 with 265 50 15s and have still a bit of room the diff is b/w 25 spline with 2 short axels from a centura so its falcon stud pattern with a spool and 3.9.1 gears ... i need a boot lid and a bonnet if any 1 has them spare

[jewels]

heres the strut and brakes

and the brake/caliper and strut setup

and the front hubs in ford 5 stud

[jewels]

these wheels are only for setup and wont be used ! ok :D

pic of each side where they will sit (we hope)

will be 31 spline axles

[Dr Danger]

Freaking sweet.

Love those brakes. Will hopefully pull it up from warp speed pretty good.

I have to get me some...

Pic from the back?

[jewels]

here tis dr danger

[Dr Danger]

Standard Hoppers kit with slotted rotors?

[jewels]

yup !

[zombie289]

lovely...how wide is that rear rim??

[jewels]

its been setup for a standard ford weld/centreline offset


on a 15x8 rim

[Dr Danger]

Got any more pics underneath the rear end yet Jewels? Spring hangers and so on?

[jewels]

yes i have more pics of that area al

but was going to leave it for when you see it in real....

[Dr Danger]

Fair cop. Look forward to it.

[jewels]

should be pretty good in the braking department

31 spline axles ready to go

[Dr Danger]

Going to run a alloy carrier in this one too?

Would be a shame not to compliment those axles with some other nice things...

Caltracs also?

[jewels]

not this time
but the centre has not yet been sorted that will be later

caltracs or a derivative yes for sure

[Phil]

Jewels,who does your axles? Can they do similar in 28 spline?

Cheers,

Phil.

[jewels]

yea phil they can make 28 spline

CLICK HERE (http://www.geelongdiffs.com.au/) for their website

ask for brian tell him you were talking to us :wink:

[jewels]

it lives !

DtmkbpwgzW0

[benny]

Well done.

Remind us what that radiator came out of. Does it sit between, or on top of the frame rails? Any indications on how well it cools yet?

[zombie289]

BRAVO OL CHEP!! BRAVO INDEED!!!!
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa26/zombie289/terrythomas_2.jpg

[jewels]

ive been wiring the car for a few days now

so i thought the first test would be to see if

the start and ignition part of it ok :clown

first real test for our opposite side starter conversion also

well test went good as you can see

also found a minor problem with a water leak that needs to be fixed also

benny, car didnt run for long enough to tell

we never set up a fuel delivery system to test for longer running

oil pressure good real good

so far so good ...

[ozzie]

sounds sweet jewels did you have any troubles
getting donk in:D

[jewels]

yes it does sound sweet...and load when in a shed

we have now fitted a temporary fuel system

ran until warm radiator held up well benny..next start will be to test thermo switch is

activating correctly

we now have a temperature gauge fitted also

radiator sits on top of the rails

is from a toyota van

the second video does a walk around before its started might be able to see more

there...sorry about the sound being so low

i adjusted a little to much drrr

[Toby]

That engine sounds absolutely fantastic,:drool

and this is just a mild tune? :o

[jewels]

yea toby :)

it loves fuel too start ups have been on sunoco NOS supreme ($7.50 litre) :yikes

im glad we have started it as it gives a a chance to sort out gremlins etc before painting etc

so things i can check of the list as OK and being tested are ...



charging system
alternator/gen light
cortina factory gauge operation with this engine
cooling fan operation (going to change the switch to a lower temp not that happy with its turn on temp)
water leaks
passenger side starter conversion operation
we will change to a smaller alternator belt
holley (more fuel on the outside :clown carby) 750 DP operation
oil leaks (we have found one)

i have wired the car myself so im keen to test these things while running

its good it 8)

[jewels]

some of my wiring and termination pics

8 relays will be in the car

remember lucas was originally the maker....:rofl

and you will see the little fuse box i also put together

will use some of the original wiring to the rear of the car and some for

instrumentation

the rest is all new

[Dr Danger]

Grapevine says there has been progress...?

Can't believe you posted somewhere else first though!

Ban. :)

[jewels]

um, what did i post ?
progress

oh yea

fuel tank is made
been working on seat belt mounts and operation

finished the battery cables and mounting

but thats really about it

[Dr Danger]

That'll do.

I just didn't want to see it on Cortina central first. ;)

Fabrication looks real nice. B&B by any chance...?

[jewels]

mmmm yes :thumbs

[jewels]

fuel system and battery/washer etc area

a bit over the top yea but why not 8)

auto freshened with large pan, shift kit etc

[jewels]

we have been doing small things of late ...which you cant really see

the main thing we did was modify our old 'rotiesserie'

now fitted with castors and some extra bracing we can continue with

finishing the major welding under the car

it will also be used on the 63 GT so we wanted it to be a bit more versatile

for the paint shop use etc

[Phil]

Thats coming along nicely Jewels:thumbs Some nice fabrication work in there:drool

[jewels]

seems like its taking for ever :)

[pimtina]

seems like its taking for ever :)
Jewels, I feel the same about mine! It looks like I've done about a months worth of work in the past year. I hope to have all the fab work done by September, then I'll bring it home to my garage for wiring and plumbing over next winter, back on the road spring '10!

[64mk1]

How did you go about mounting the rack, i see you have a mount on the left side of the xmember, but how did you mount the rack on the righthand side. Mustn't be able to see it in the photos

[jewels]

64mk1,
similar to the left side
just fabricated mounts on the original crossmember

[64mk1]

Thanks for the help, i think i've got i figured out now, just had to look at as many photos to see. This to me seems a relatively easy and quite handy way of doing this conversion. Good luck on the rest of the car :thumbs

[jewels]

a sneak peek at early fab work on the rear axle

and how low i would like it :)

[zombie289]

Very noice.... just finish the damn thing will ya's!!! ;)