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Bertil
17th January 2008, 05:13 PM
I am reading about your cars in Australia and NZ and that you use all kind of Japanese engines. Please enlighten me what engines they are and from what cars you get them. Also a following question will be what gearboxes you use, and what bellhousings.

geoff
17th January 2008, 10:36 PM
bertil ,just to
answer some of
your questions.
i use nissan ca18,
and sr20 engines
because they fit into
mk1 cortinas easier than
others i have fitted in the
past.(these engines are found
in nissan 180sx and 200sx.
s13 ,s14, s15 body shape)
made between 1988,to 2005.
to answer your2nd question
on gearboxes i use the factory
5 or 6 speed manual transmision
that comes with the nissan engine
in question.:)

jewels
18th January 2008, 05:33 AM
its a much easier conversion if you keep the transmissions to the same the engine could come with

cosworth engines never came here and are hard to get unless you import yourself
if you can get them they are very expensive and the jap engines work out to be a much better proposition dollars wise.
although you do get some flack for not fitting a 'ford' type engine

Dr Danger
18th January 2008, 09:56 AM
Apart from the Nissan engines though Bertil, there are quite a few Toyota 4AGE powered Mk1's and 2's getting around over here. This is the motor found in Corolla's that I mentioned a couple of weeks back. It is basically a Japanese version (very close version) of the old Ford Cosworth BDA, but with fuel injection and some other electronic bits, so they go pretty good. You can also get a factory supercharged version... This motor/gearbox appeals to many because the gearbox tunnel for the smaller Toyota 5 speed doesn't have to be modified to the extent that the Nissan gearboxes require.

Just lately people have discovered some of the Mazda engines/gearboxes are easy to fit (and you can get rocker covers that say 'FORD' that bolt on). Plus I suspect that the Zetec will gain a strong following soon(ish) here because people can get them locally and import the bits to fit them from the U.K.

So just to satisfy my curiosity, what are you thinking Bertil? Wan't to swap us a couple of Cosworths for a CA18 and a 4AGE... :)

Bertil
18th January 2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks guys.
Cosworth engines are quite easy to come by here but they are rather expensive and rebuilding them killes the budget seriously! If you go for power the Cosworth engine is the best way to go, 300 bhp is done in a minute. 500 bhp needs some changing cams, turbocharger and porting the head. 500 bhp today in a Sierra is a backmaker, 800 bhp engines now see the light every day and the hairiest ones break the 1000 bhp wall. Since the Cosworth engine is both heavy and expensive I am thinking of some more light and reasonable power plants for the old Fords.

What years was the 4AGE fitted to the Corollas?

The Nissan SX engines have a very bad reputation here, the con rod bearings tend to break and people have got so tired of their Nissans engines that they change to Cosworth engines instead. That is one thing that have boosted the prices of the Cossie engines. A good SX engine is almost impossible to find here.

Mazda units must be the least unFordish way to go thinking of Ford owning Mazda. However Miatas are quite rare here, are there any other rwd Mazdas? The Ford Duratec is the Mazda engine I pressume, and for that one bellhousings that fit ford boxes are available.

jewels
18th January 2008, 05:14 PM
i dont know where these storys start about big end bearings ..we too have heard some talk about this
but never seen a failure or heard of one here unless it was for some other reason... like no oil

both in CA18 and SR20s

4ag's came out in mid 80s models there are a few different Kws configs among them
but not hard to come by and very cheap

mazda/ford duratec is only very new here and are expensive at the moment and only FWD versions available at the moment

more often used is the zetec but still not a lot of conversions done surprisingly

RetroMk2
18th January 2008, 05:14 PM
Yup - the Duratech can be found in the 2005 onwards NC Miata's as RWD (MX5's here).

I am doing a bit of research on this very topic (well out of an ealier miata with the BP series 1.8L + 6 speed) for a conversion into my Mk2. Read <-HERE-> (http://www.cortina-mk1classifieds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127)

Cheers, Dave.

jewels
18th January 2008, 05:18 PM
the other conversion some have used is a rotary here

i have seen fiat twin cam fitted
v6 holden commodore

zombie289
20th January 2008, 10:35 AM
also the old skool alfa and fiat twin cams, datsun L18-20, I had a Mk1 with a 1800cc pushrod mazda donk from a mid 70's capella (went ok but the guy did a crap job converting it, sat too high and too far forward. Oh and also the old yamahaha 8 valve toyota donks ive seen in Cortys. I have a friend here in L.A w/ a Mk 1 doing the Miata conversion w/ the ford valve cover trick...

Dr Danger
20th January 2008, 05:37 PM
Miata (MX5 here) engines are used but some people are currently discovering that the more workhorse engines are good also. Like out of the Bravo (Mazda) and Courier (Ford) utes (not sure if they are in Sweden or not?). Not sure what the motor 'codes' for these motors are??? I know practically nothing more other than some people are trying it here and I believe that some NZ based people used the 626 (Mazda) or Telstar (Ford) motors of the mid 90's in early Cortina's with good success.

Bertil
21st January 2008, 07:13 PM
The Nissan SX is quite rare here but still they have a reputation of big ends not lasting long. This is (from what I have heard) caused by the far to small oilcooler. Finding a good engine is not easy and they are very rae at the breakers.
I had a look at the major car seller site here, cheapest Nissan 200 is about $4000 and it says in the ad itīs got bearing noise... the two next ones, one have the engine on the side due to bearing noise and no 3 is in the need of an engine replacement due to bearing failiure..... guys, I dont like theese ones...

Z tech is a good engine, there is also a large selection of parts available to get them into rwd cars. Has the old school pattern for the gearbox as well.

The Duratech is till rather new on the market and like you say it is still quite expensive. For that one there is also a large selection of rwd fitment parts. There are also bellhousings to make Ford boxes to fit.

Miatas (MX5) is an exclusive sport car here and finding parts from such a one will cost a fortune.

Guess I will stay in the Ford lane...

Dr Danger
21st January 2008, 07:34 PM
It's all rubbish Bertil. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the Nissan engines. They are very tuff and have an almost second-to-none reputation here. Perhaps people are using the wrong oil in them or something...? Or bad tunes? What octane rating is the fuel over there? It just doesn't sound right. I've been driving mine hard (very hard sometimes) every day for the last 3 years with only a headgasket (due to loosing all the water) as a major issue. Bottom end is perfect. Oil cooler is original. The only time they spin big end bearings is if people (silly ones) run them dry or they drive them (against good advise) with a bad tune.

Regardless I'd still be looking at the Toyota 4AGE before writting them off. Again they have brilliant reputations as being good strong motors, are compact and reasonably light. Look at one from a RWD Corolla (Sprinter).

You probably have access to more English parts for bolting Zetecs in than we do. Might be worth a try?

Dr Danger
21st January 2008, 07:37 PM
I just remembered. FYI, one of the world most powerful Nissan CA18det's is in Sweden, he has something like 400rwkw's and is (rumored) to be shooting for more soon. Interesting isn't it. wonder if he is one of the people that don't like them? :)

I'll see if I can dig up the thread I saw this on.

geoff
21st January 2008, 10:32 PM
could not have said
it better myself ,al
(see the ca18 powered
datsun ute just ran a
8.88 sec pass at willowbank
at147 mph no bearing problems
there) i have seen some bearing
problems in ca 18s due to the
dickhead factor in every case
the last 4 engines i pulled apart
suffered crank and bearing
problems,due to detonation,to much boost and to much timing.the factory ecu is only good enough for 14 or15 pound of boost without modification.seems everyone excedes this for some reason,hence the dickhead factor,

Dr Danger
21st January 2008, 11:14 PM
At the same time, I don't want to sound like one of those wankers that are so single minded (the hole "because that's what I've got" attitude) that they can't see the enchanted forest or magical lake (like Bertil's got) through the trees...

Remember, we are just talking from our experiences and in regards to the motors we have available. Not doubting for one second that Cossies aren't good strong motors but I certainly don't think they are the be all and end all of strong powerful 4 cylinder motors. We could probably build a CA or SR twice as powerful and just as strong as a standard Cossie for what, half the price of the standard Cossie alone...? Sounds like you are heading the same way if prices keep going up? :(

It's not a silly idea to start looking at alternatives. :)

I'm getting a thought...

Okay, I understand that the SX motors are expensive there because the numbers of them in Sweden are low. We have a high number of them because it costs VERY little $$$ to ship a front cut of a car from Japan to Oz. Relative to shipping it to Sweden of course. We can pick up these motors cheap and with low Km's. CA's and 4AG's range from lower than $1000 for a good one and SR's go for $2500 or so these days. Sometimes you can even get a gearbox included for that money. We also have the luxury of getting off the shelf performance bit's for REASONABLE money from Japan too. But the thing is that people wouldn'd bring them into the country if they weren't pretty good things to start with.

Bertil
22nd January 2008, 04:50 PM
Toyota engines are known to be strong and longliving, but I havent seen a RWD Corolla here for 20 years, and here a Sprinter is a Mercedes van.
A matter a fact I donīt think Toyota sell any rwd car here at all, except for some low budget lookalike 4x4 missing itīs front wheel drive. Can you post a pic of the Corolla you are speaking about please.

Spoke to a guy yesterday about the Nissan engines bearing problems, he say the oil cooler is way to small for the engine capacity. Thinking of it there might be a connection to that this is a "cold market" and the oilcoolers here are smaller than in "warm market" cars. Thinkig of it a bit further, most of the Nissans here are imported from Italy and Spain, that are warm markets. What about the Nissan boxes, are they any good?
I had a look again in the www in south europe markets, cars start at low prices and nobody state the car have any engine problems. Maybe all the problems here is because of the lads are boosting them and forget to change the oil. Here is what you get for $2500 if you go to Italy: http://www.autoscout24.se/Details.aspx?id=71965102
Damn that car is ugly. We call them pizza racers.

Dr Danger
23rd January 2008, 01:53 AM
Yep, you hit the nail right on the head there Bertil. People put too much boost up them for the standard ECU to cope and then forget to change the oil. Any engine is going to spin a bearing under those stresses.

Hmmm, I guess we get the "warm market" cars as you say, but the oil cooler on my car is not that big and I have been running 14psi of boost for the past year with no trouble. 98 RON fuel. Even so, if people are running the engines outside the design parameters of the motor (which they do), they should also be running bigger oil coolers. That will be my first investement when I rebuild mine. It just makes sense. In the ones we have, the oil is cooled in a heat exchanger that uses radiator water. I wonder if yours are the same?

The 5 speed Nissan gearboxes are good and strong. The 6 speed ones don't cope with big boost too well. Most people retrofit the 5 speeds back in. But I'd doubt there would be too many of those there anyway by the sounds of it. Only came with the SR20's which are really a bit physically large for a Mk1 anyway (ask Geoff).

Yep, that car is ugly. But it is cheap. 1.8 would mean a CA18. Bit too much leather (money for you non Swedish people) just to rip the engine out of it. The rest would just be scrap wouldn't it?

A link to some RWD Corolla info. Now you mention it, these things are getting a bit old and possibly not what you are after. Mind you, Cossies are old too... It's just that we can still get low km ones very cheap.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AE86

jewels
23rd January 2008, 05:25 AM
you could count on one hand bertil
the amount of cosworth conversions here in Oz and still have change

thats unless its a imported whole like a sierra or similar thens theres a few more

geoff
23rd January 2008, 10:04 PM
bertil,sr and ca nissan
5 speed gearboxes are
good for about 500 to 550
hp without modification.:)

Bertil
24th January 2008, 04:53 PM
I remember the Toyota Corolla AE86 when I se the pic of it on Wikipedia, there were such cars here but since they stopped making them in 1987 (acc to Wikipedia) all have rusted away.
I had a look at the biggest car sale site here. There is one, a GT-S US import for sale. The guy state in the ad the car heīs selling is 1 of a total of 2 in Sweden. Quite reasonable actually I think, alot of "developments" including a full coilover kit, all at the price of $3400.
Guess I leave the Toyota lane there and then.

I have found gearboxes for both a 1,8 Nissan 180SX and a 200SX, are they the same? Nobody here knows, especially not the breakers. They wonder why on earth I ask if the 200 and 180 have the same box when they can supply both, just buy what fits your car. They donīt even want to let me in to have a look at the boxes, and if they find out they are the same they will simply increase the price of the cheaper one. So I prefer to ask around here among you guys who knows this before I cheat the scrapper and buy a 180 box from him. No idéa to start explaining about using the box for some other car.
The difference in price is between 180 and 200 is huge. A 180 box is $500 and a 200 box is $1200. If they are the same I will buy a 180 box and try to mate it with a Cosworth engine. Has any of you tried that?

The ZX, is that front wheel drive? And SX rwd?

jewels
24th January 2008, 05:00 PM
nah cant say ive heard of that being done...

even the zetec conversion here is fairly new
ive only seen and escort with it done

Bertil
24th January 2008, 05:14 PM
There are both SR20 and CA18 engines for sale at the breakers here. From what I understand you recommend the CA18 then?
What about the management, is it mapable? Possible to put another chip in? I have had a look at a forum here but from what I understand nobody does it properly. They just increase the boost and wait for the disaster. Guess that is one of the explanations for all the bearing failiures.
Maybe I should fit a Cosworth Marelli system instead that is fully mapable and runs with a MAP sensor and no oxygen sensor?

jewels
24th January 2008, 05:47 PM
there are a few choices here bertil
you can run aftermarket ecu which are all fully programmable
many makers and options here priced from around $600 up to $5000 depending on your budget

this is the most common approach ...

also there are people who can make the original re-programable and fully adjustable

like HERE (http://www.drdrift.com.au/)

he is a friend of ours who we have used in the past to modify the factory ecu

aftermarket ecus

microtech
autronic
motec
haltec

to name a few of the most popular choices

microtech make very affordable units

we use autronic



as for the engine choice we have fitted both to mk1s have you looked HERE (http://www.cortina-mk1.com/sr20.php) for conversion info?

the ca18 fits much nicer than the sr20
many many hipo parts available for the sr20

and the ca18 but not as much as there used to be mainly camshafts are impossible now to get

forged pistons, h or i beam rods all available of the shelf for both
even stroker kits for the sr20

it just depends on price availability and what you like to look of better i spose :)

Dr Danger
25th January 2008, 10:14 PM
I think there are some slight differences between the CA 5 speeds and the SR 5 speeds. Not sure of the exact differences but I would think that grafting a Cossie in front of one would be hard work unless the Cossie bellhousings are alloy? But a CA box is just as strong if you want to try it still. Heaps cheaper at least. Geoff might know more about the differences?

After having seen a couple of SR's and owning a CA Mk1, I could not recommend doing an SR conversion. They are just too physically big for the engine bay. No room for other stuff. At least with a CA, after the intercooler pipes are removed it's not too bad. Way better than a modern car at least!

Dr Danger
25th January 2008, 10:17 PM
Oh and a guy by the name of Dr Drift here (might be Jewel's link, I havn't checked) does base maps for original Nissan ECU's that would at least be in the ballpark for any given engine configuration. They are fairly cheap but I think the aftermarket ECU would be the way to go if you can find someone to tune it for you. You might still find someone who can retune the original. Apparently they are not that hard...?

jewels
26th January 2008, 06:57 AM
yep correct al

that is DR drift link

he has a mate over in the UK doing the same thing... i cnt remember of the top of my head who is at the moment but would be closer for you for sure

Dr Danger
26th January 2008, 10:09 PM
So how much are they asking for these engines Bertil and do they have any sort of history with them? I.E. have they been boosted before? Or totally original?

Bertil
28th January 2008, 04:55 PM
Prices goes from quite low (with bearing failiure) to rather expensive for a low km engine. You get what you pay for, normal logic.
The Cosworth box is the Borg Warner T5 and that is really hard to find. It is very strong except on the 5th gear. Some very strong engines have managed to twist off the mainshaft, that happens before a gear breakdown. The T5 also suffer from very weak synchro rings.
Since they are hard to find and very expensive both to buy and restore the Nissan box can be a good option.

I prefer live mapping, donīt like to buy a chip for a certain set up, Iīve done it and got disappointed.
The Cosworth Marelli system is very good and works very fine on engines running 1000cc injectors and 600bhp. Very easy to map as well.
But ofcourse it donīt offer launch control and such novelties.
Wiring harness is straight out of a Cosworth Sierra and connects to the car in 1 single plug. Only thing that can be a pain to sort is the 4 point crank pulley needed to trig the sensor.

I found ot a thing this weekend. Nissans for the Swedish market came without oilcoolers.
Also, since people are careless using antifreeze (that also prevents from corrosion) in southern europe the oilcoolers corrode and mix oil and water and is therefore very often taken out of the cars!

jewels
28th January 2008, 05:04 PM
bertil
yea its strange the difference from country to country

if freight wasnt so expensive some exchanges could take place...

Bertil
30th January 2008, 12:58 AM
Yes, sending stuff is very expensive and very often somebody do something wrong during the shipping so you have to wait for a couple of days extra. One time I had a large order from Burton in UK coming in, parts for about $20000 in one shipment. The DHL bastards lost the parcel. I had to be very agressive and almost use force to make my way into the terminal building and search for the parcel myself since they did nothing. I found it, but if I had not been that kind of stubborn guy I guess I would have been seriously f--ked.

Now we got us a freight thread as well... :-)

I think I will try to get my hands on a CA with box. Donīt know if it will be any problems since our cars are LHD...

dmulally
19th February 2008, 09:00 AM
I am currently doing what homework I can for fitting a Zetec with webers into one of the Mk1's.

Does anybody know anyone who has done this and what is needed in the way of steering, crossmember struts etc...?

Cheers

Damo

jewels
19th February 2008, 03:11 PM
damo,
while we have not done this conversion ourselves it has been donw many times before
there are many conversion parts (water pipes and and pumps bellhousing ) made to suit RWD application

Dr Danger
19th February 2008, 03:27 PM
In England.

dmulally
20th February 2008, 08:36 AM
There are some sites in England which have the info. I guess its just the clubby in me coming out.

Doing some quick pro's and con's the money spent converting to a zetec could be better put into making a 1500 go a little faster. Although the top end of a 1500 will be the bottom end of a zetec, in 10 years time I think an original 1500 will be more desirable than a zetec.

I will just have to face facts that I will never break any speed records!

Bertil
17th March 2008, 08:14 PM
Think I will try a Volvo 5 cyl unit just for a quickbuild. Basically the same engine is also found in the Ford Focus ST.
The Volvo unit is really easy and cheap to come by and there are loads of bits for increasing both power and reliability.
I donīt quite like it, but I prefer that in front of the impossible CA engine I have tried to find in a useable condition for WEEKS now. All have worn rod bearings, I have opened 3 engines at the breakers and all of them needed a regrind and new bearings.

jewels
17th March 2008, 10:47 PM
how cheap and readily available are they over there?

the volvo engine i mean ...

a1topdog
18th March 2008, 03:47 AM
Bertil - what about the Honda S2000 engine and gearbox? A few of these are finding their way into the Mk2 escorts over here in the UK. They seem to be a very highly regarded engine and box , the only down side I can see for the Cortina is the size of the combination - they are huge , hence having to be mounted at an angle.

RetroMk2
18th March 2008, 08:56 AM
Bertil - what about the Honda S2000 engine and gearbox? A few of these are finding their way into the Mk2 escorts over here in the UK. They seem to be a very highly regarded engine and box , the only down side I can see for the Cortina is the size of the combination - they are huge , hence having to be mounted at an angle.

Not to mention expensive!

Dr Danger
18th March 2008, 09:03 AM
Jewels. Sweden=Volvo.
Volvo=Sweden.

Seriously, every single car in Sweden (well Gothenburg at least, Gothenburg=Volvo) was a Volvo. So my point is that I don't think avaliability will be much of an issue. :)

I may be going out on a limb here but I think Bertil may have some good contacts for parts also...

That plus Bertils quote:
"The Volvo unit is really easy and cheap to come by and there are loads of bits for increasing both power and reliability."

:)

Dr Danger
18th March 2008, 09:05 AM
Might be better in the UK Retro? But yes, good strong engine but very pricey and physically large. Probably bigger than an SR20? Or Duratec (the 5 cylinder) for that matter?

jewels
18th March 2008, 09:10 AM
what sort of HiPo parts are available for them bertil?

and its the problem of being a fwd engine

needing to sort out a RWD gearbox for it

i think its a good idea but expensive here...

Bertil
18th March 2008, 05:43 PM
Just about all you want, pistons, rods, cams, you name it. All at very good prices since this is Volvo land over here.
They came both aspirated and turbocharged, and in sizes from 2 litre up to 2,5. The strongest production engine is out of the V70R/S60R 300bhp from factory, can easily be squeezed to 400 and 5-600 with small mods such as bigger chargers and mapable management. A bit expensive still though, 2002-2007 my.

For box the M90 from the 960 that is rwd fit straight on the engine. The M90 is very strong but the synchro rings are a bit weak.

All is made in aluminium so the weight is low to. Modern layout on the engine, there are no maincaps in the old fashion way, instead the sump is in two layers, one layer is the maincaps.

For your rhd cars the Volvo units can be tight to install, exhaust is on the right side.

Keep eyes open for:
850 turbo or better a T5R, 1992-1996, S60/V70 97-00, engines from breakers must be quite reasonable now even in your country. They have the 2,3 litre high pressure engine, 230-250 bhp. Has a good management system, chips are available in any shapes at a bargain nowdays.
The M90 gearbox is fitted to the 960 2,5 SE, a bit rare as manual but not impossible to find, hopefully they sold it as manual.

jewels
18th March 2008, 06:01 PM
so the rwd manual will still bolt up to the fwd versions?
even the focus?

we have looked a the engine in the focus when it was stripped down so im familiar with the layout a bit

so i need to find a M90 gearbox from a 960 2.5 SE volvo ?
being not up with 'volvos' what year would that be ?

i will make some inquiries with volvo wreckers here...see how i go
they may laugh at me :D

Bertil
19th March 2008, 12:06 AM
I am not 100% sure that the ST and the Volvo engine have the same flange, but I have never heard anybody say they dont. They should have the same flange, if not whatīs the benefit of using the Volvo casting in the Ford? On the other hand the ST engine will still cost a fortune, I am quite sure a 850 T5 engine is alot less expensive and then you can be sure it fits.

The M90 box was fitted to Volvo 960 with straight 6 cylinder petrol engine built between 1990 and 1998. They also came with diesels, the diesel box will NOT fit the petrol engine.

jewels
19th March 2008, 09:28 AM
well its not looking good
one bloke told me that volvo australia only sold two 960 with a manual and they are still on the road here

but can get a t5 engine and a s70 engine

one said also they had a turbo 'F' engine ???

Dr Danger
19th March 2008, 09:33 AM
But did they laugh at you? :)

jewels
19th March 2008, 09:37 AM
yes one bloke did laugh :)

Dr Danger
19th March 2008, 10:28 AM
Isn't it typical though. If only Sweden was much closer to Australia... We really need to look into the cost of a pallet of goodies shipped to Sweden. Load it up with T5 gearboxes and a couple of good CA's (amongst other small stuff). Bertil loads one up with a couple of good Cossies and some M90 gearboxes (amongst other small stuff)...

Dr Danger
19th March 2008, 10:33 AM
Bertil, If I have read things correctly, I think the issue over here is getting a RWD gearbox for the Focus ST (or Volvo V70R/S60R) motor(s). Don't think we have anything compatible other than the 2 manual 960's that were sold (but are still on the road) here.

Bertil
19th March 2008, 06:55 PM
Here you get a little taste of a ca 350 bhp 850 turbo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebkqIZ5z8OM Sounds quite good actually!

It shouldnīt be difficult to make an adaptor to couple the T5 engine to the T5 box... :-) Would be a nice match donīt you think. The we can call it the TT10 powertrain!

The ONLY rwd box that fits the 5 cyl engines is the M90. Most 960īs vere autos here as well, but the M90 is not impossible to get hold of. It is much more difficult to find a T5. There are 4x4 Volvos but the engine is still fitted the wrong way, ie it is a front wheel drive car with rwd extra support when needed.

The F engines, F stands for engines fitted with catalytic converter but that code was only used on the older 4 cyl engines. For example all 240 cars shipped to California had F engines, they were not as strong as the E engines sold in europe. Eveything with an F on is to be avoided, low compression and lame cams etc, as we say: smog engines.

jewels
20th March 2008, 08:59 AM
thats tuff
love the sound reminds me of the old audi rally car days

Bertil
20th March 2008, 04:23 PM
Yes they do sound quite nice!

There is one MkI Escort here with a 5 cyl Volvo engine, itīs REALLY quick, canīt find any pics of it.

This MkII is beeing built now:
http://212.63.204.54/archive/2038/80892/80892-729493.jpg

Dr Danger
20th March 2008, 04:56 PM
Hahaha, looks like it is in backwards!! What is that hole that looks like where a starter motor should fit? Water pump?

Geee, no wonder they have a big plastic cover on top though...

Nice headers. Is the entire engine behind the front struts?

jewels
21st March 2008, 09:05 AM
looks the same as the focus engine i seen less all the plastic

Bertil
21st March 2008, 05:48 PM
Yes, the hole is for the water pump.

Shouldnīt say that plenum is state of the art... The header look better, but this one is built for very high BHPīs, such a manifold is not nessasary until you look at huge chargers and over 500-600 bhp.

There are 4 kind of engines, first the one with wire operated throttle 92-97, then the electrically operated throttle 97---, distributor fitted to the camshaft up to around 2002 I think, and then they abandoned the hydraulic cam followers and started to use mechanic ones again, the latest have coilpack, mechanic followers, variable cams and electric throttle.
I should say choose of engine and management system is up to your vallet and your skills, but a aftermarket management system can be fitted to any of theese engines ofcourse.

Bertil
21st March 2008, 05:50 PM
looks the same as the focus engine i seen less all the plastic

Yep, itīs basically the same lump.

Bertil
22nd March 2008, 09:51 PM
Breaking news!
There is a adaptor available to mate a Volvo 5 cyl engine and a BMW 3 series box. The BMW box is stronger and alot easier to get hold of than the M90.
Spoke to a friend yesterday, he is more into tuning Volvos than I am, and he told me that adaptor have been available for a while.

And, there is a guy here that have fitted an aspirated 5 cyl into his Cortina... I learned that to yesterday. Think I must get around some more and not only stay in the cave all the time....

jewels
22nd March 2008, 10:57 PM
great bertil

i think you better get round there for a visit :)

keep us posted what type of gearbox would that be?

a gertrag 5 speed?

Bertil
24th March 2008, 08:08 PM
Yes, they use a 5 speed Getrag BMW box. I am working on to find the guys making the adaptors and exactly what box they make it for.

jewels
24th March 2008, 08:25 PM
:)
all good

Bertil
24th March 2008, 08:39 PM
Found them, there is an adaptor for both small and big 6 cyl BMW box, and for straight up and slant engine installation, price is about $400.

http://www.klracing.se/?subpage=kategori&kategori=30

jewels
24th March 2008, 09:19 PM
its a bugga when you dont understand the language

Bertil
25th March 2008, 06:28 PM
Ha ha, I know, just wanted to show you.

hachi2
17th February 2009, 01:40 AM
Hi, ive got a 66 corty I'd like to restore.Can a Subaru(impreza N10) A.K.A scooby engine which is a flat config work in a Corty:unsure? Its got lots of power en makes a terrific sound:auto... theres plenty of them here in :bowdownZambia pliz help hachi

jewels
17th February 2009, 07:39 AM
hello hachi2 and :welcome:
i have never heard of anyone doing this conversion before

the first thing you must check is the width measurment of the flat four

at the widest part then compare against the corty engine bay

go from there

benny
21st February 2009, 01:59 PM
Bertil - what about the Honda S2000 engine and gearbox? A few of these are finding their way into the Mk2 escorts over here in the UK. They seem to be a very highly regarded engine and box , the only down side I can see for the Cortina is the size of the combination - they are huge , hence having to be mounted at an angle.

I think if it'll go this nicely in an early Celica, we could make it work in a Cortina if we put our heads together :thumbs

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2757680

jewels
21st February 2009, 06:24 PM
the only problem with a lot of honda engines

is that they are reverse rotation... so you have to be careful and make sure of that

first... just something to keep in mind

Dr Danger
23rd February 2009, 06:44 PM
The S2000 motors spin the 'correct' way.

jewels
23rd February 2009, 07:05 PM
yea i know

but many of the others dont